Through an Action Replay, a large, gray stage with the background appearing to be some kind of pub, is accessible. The music is the same as used on Fox and Falco’s stage Corneria. This is assumed to be a test stage because of its name, which on the debug menu is TEST. There are also four stages, named AKANEIA (a possible predecessor to Castle Siege from Super Smash Bros. Brawl, a homeworld for Fire Emblem), 10-2, IceTop (a possible precursor to the Summit stage from the sequel, which belongs to the Ice Climbers), and Dummy, a test stage that freezes the game when opened. In addition to this, the entire Debug Menu, which was used in pre-release testing, can be used when the game is hacked, allowing for complete editing of anything in the game. Giga Bowser, both male and female Fighting Wire Frames, Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and even Sandbag are all playable (to a limited extent) via the Debug Menu. [Info from Mariowiki]
Some level analyzes was been made, such as:
- DUMMY stage can be used, for the Victory Screen, an platform at the middle of nowhere for the players, at the victory screen, can be placed correctly;
- TEST stage, of course, an stage for testing stuff, using Develop utility, at Debug Menu main. Can be placed any enemies (well, much of them), test graphics (like any stage on Develop mode) and more. Rumors say that looks Corneria Level, that’s because have the Music;
- AKANEIA stage, an Fire Emblem stage what was to be made, only the code rested at the disc, that’s because no one could find any hack for playing it;
- ICETOP stage, an end of Ice Mountain, the TOP of Ice Mountain? They say it, it’s possible to be entered by hacks;
- TSEAK target smash stage, “T” for targed, “SEAK” is Sheik, Nintendo may was planing to do an target test for Sheik (may change it on the menu or something, just like Brawl), it could be so glitched when changing to Zelda, what they rejected, just one platform with 3 targets;
- 10-2 adventure stage, just after 10-1 ICEMT, so, it’s the Icetop stage for Adventure.
In some of the old screens, we can see some differences: in the Super Mario Field there is a warp pipe (the one next to donkey kong) which isn’t in the final game. Peach is on a platform that isn’t in the game either (at the Special Video, Nintendo did it with that platform, maybe they made at the VERY END of the game, they removed the platform when releasing and was keep at the Video, EVEN at the manual [At the Camera-Fixed Mode Page]), the fire emblem in the background where mario, kirby, and pikachu are fighting, are different than the final.
In a beta video, we can see that originally it was possible to go inside the laboratory in the Great Bay level.
As we can read from an article on N-Philes, through Melee’s Debug menu, it is possible to have a match with six characters instead of four, somethings about melee, if someone don’t know, it contains an Multiman-Melee, what they have 6 characters at the screen, maybe the config is for this mode, but been used at Melee Mode. Also Ditto was in the game as a Pokeball Pokemon but was pulled for whatever reason. There is some information about Ditto was removed: “At some sites (such as SmashWiki), tells the Ditto was causing much trouble for making it, he special power was to “steal” the move of the other players, but what about on a round of 4 players? Nintendo retired the idea, and stayed at disc, it’s possible to go into Debug Menu, but it only will hit a 12% at the character”
Some other enemies was “unused”, we can say, but they have a difference at the name: They are may beta design of the enemies stayed at the game, but only the code, cause it’s unable to be accessed, take a look at the list:
- Old-Kuri, Kuri is the Kuriboh (Goomba);
- Old-Lead, Lead is the Leaded (Re-dead);
- Old-Octa, Octa is the Octarock (Octarock);
- Old-Otto, Otto is the Ottosei (Enemy from IceClimbers).
Those maybe was testing who what “fits” better at the game, like the old texture or the used.
One thing found at the “Test things” on Debug Menu, was an pre-loader loading screen for all-star, showing the next battle, maybe not used cause 3 character or more, could not be appeared at the loading screen
Update: Gabrielwoj found some unused all-star intros into the Debug Menu.
They probably got unused cause All-Star uses a system for multiples teams for all-star…
Probably the all-star was only Player Vs. Player (without any teams)…
See the video below!
Update 2: Gabrielwoj recently found that in the Debug Menu is possible to unlock 2 special trophies…
Those trophies only appear on the Japanese Version of the game, but it still on the USA/PAL version of the game, and still translated, see video below!
Update 3: Just after unlocking those, and reboot the game, there is some special messages (translated too)!
See video below!
Thanks to Camdawg, Dark Rayman, Shade3c, Adriel, Abu5ername, Pierre Antonie and gabrielwoj for the contributions!
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Beta Characters in this game:
When were these characters going to be or in the game? In the Debug Menu no remains of those characters are found. Do you know a website that says so?
Sonic is a hoax in melee hes not beta, but an april fool’s joke
The Super Mario Field has a warp pipe(the one next to donkey kong) which isn’t in the finished game. Peach is on some platiform that isn’t in the game either, the fire emblem in the background where mario, kirby, and pikachu is fighting,is different than the original and the last two pictures are break the target levels that isn’t in the game.
Boshi was Yoshi’s Alternate costume in the beta.
The Platform Peach is on is in the movie next to the how to play movie.
what DRMARIOX and Slo Mo say is untrue monokoma delete the first post and Slo Mos if he doesnt provide any evidence
To FullMetalMC:How do you know that what they say ISNT True?
Why dont YOU Provide some evidence?
Pit and Meta Knight were going to be on Melee but thats just a stupid rumor on the internet
Snake actually going to be in melee but it was to late in development too add him because of time restraints and this may explain why the bottom row is short by one character
To FullMetalMC: Well, Slo_Mo25 is right. Miyamoto wanted Boshi to be in the game, but Boshi would be a clone. We know that they’re a lot of clones in Melee, but Boshi would just be a stronger Yoshi, just like Dr. Mario of Mario. Anyway, this got remove as his alternate color, because Miyamoto screwed it up. He made too many mistakes that he gave up on the project.
Reply to JerryX
The special movie was probobly made before the game was done
I remember that my Local Target ran Ad’s for SBM, the box art was just bowser hurting Mario…
James_Koopa37, your comment seems strange. I don’t see what Miyamoto would have to do with Boshi not being in the game, let alone why its his fault that Boshi isn’t there. Since you don’t provide any evidence either, your comment is most likely hearsay.
Boshi was in no way going to be included. Miyamoto probably had little to do with character inclusion anyway.
That and FullMetalMC is right, if they have these claims they should have proof to back it up. Our proof that those are false is that there ISN’T evidence to prove otherwise. Stop posting if your just going to throw rumors at us.
I bet I could post a link to Captain Falcon’s beta color variation (aka Hell Hawk).
Hey, Monokoma, please add the following two contribs to this page!
Going inside the Laboratory in Great Bay (Video):
Captain Falcon’s Beta Color variation “Hell Hawk” (Picture):
Thanks Shade3! :) That beta video of the Great Bay is awesome, i did not know that you could go into the laboratory in the beta! For the “Hell Hawk” text, i’m almost sure that it was in the Japanese Version, but it was changed in the USA version.. so i should make a new “Unseen Changes” article about it :)
Sorry but I think you added the Fox pic to the wrong page. We all make mistakes eventually!
ahha, ops your are right.. i’ll fix it ASAP :D
Okay, here’s why you can’t see these characters in the debug menu:
Beta Characters in this game:
Paper Mario- Model, Hammer, Goombario, and Star Spirit Textures were extracted from version 1.0
Pit- Usable by changing Global Data Edit.
Samurai Goroh- Extra Voices found in version 0.9’s Sound Test
Ridley- Usable by changing Global Data Edit.
Wolf- Textures were extracted from version 1.1
King Dedede- Usable by changing Global Data Edit.
Meta Knight- SSBB Voices found in version 1.0 sound test by changing Global Data Edit
Sonic- Jumping Sound found on version 0.9
Snake- Textures Extracted from version 1.0
You want to know how to use the Global Data Edit? Go to AR Central. It will tell you how.
Remember- I don’t think you can by Version 0.9 and 1.0 or 1.1. You can only by version 1.2 and 1.3.
Sorry for the double post, but I have come across two bits of interesting information while trying to verify DRMARIOX’s claims.
1. Through the Debug menu, it is possible to have a match with six characters instead of four.
2. Ditto was in the game as a Pokeball Pokemon but was pulled for whatever reason.
Information on both of these finds were found here:
Of course, I can’t verify these images as real, but I have found similar information on other sites using Google searches, so I think it’s pretty legitimate.
Sorry for the double post, but I found some interesting information in the following link:
1. The game can be played with six players instead of four through the Debug Menu.
2. Ditto was in the game as a Pokeball Pokemon, but was taken out of the final one for whatever reason.
Of course, I don’t have an AR, so I can’t test them out, but I have found the same info on other sites using Google, so it looks legitimate.
Thanks for the link Camdawg! I’m going to add those info in the description :)
Sorry, the comment function is being weird for me, so I’m posting this again. If this comment pops up multiple times, please delete the duplicates:
Granted, I don’t have an Action Replay, but I’ve looked at AR Central and done some snooping around the net. I can’t find anything that mentions the list of stuff that you have provided, which is odd. I’m pretty sure that it would be mentioned somewhere online that Pit was playable through the debug menu. You’ll need to cite a source or video that actually shows these things or there is still no proof.
In addition, even if those objects are in the game code, there is no way for us to know if they were going to be playable in the game. For example, the textures could all be for trophies that were dropped from the final game for whatever reason. The sound effects could just be temp stuff added for testing the game during development.
Lastly, all of the textures and sound files you listed were from versions 0.9-1.1, which according to you we cannot access because the Global Data Edit only works on versions 1.2 and 1.3, which means that even if someone had an AR, they would be unable to verify your list. Isn’t that strange? Hmmm….
I Found Some Weird Metal Mario Things, If You Go Into Trophies, Find “Metal Mario” Trophy, And Zoom In To The Button on His Overalls, You Will See A Tree But, Look To The Left Of The Button And Theres A Vertical Pipe! Also You Can See Blocks And More Trees In The Background, And On The Floor Is The Three Spin Blocks And A Hole, Plus In The Background There A Blurs, But You may Just Ba Able To Make Out Three Pillars (Like On Super Mario World)
I Think This Is The Beta Yoshi’s Island Level, Or Maybe A Modified Version, Or Just The Final Version.
Holy crap. I just did what Tomspud5 said, and it’s true. There really is a picture that looks like what he described. I think it’s just a coincidence, but that’s pretty weird.
Interesting find! Could anyone make a video from it?
I’ll Try And Make A Video Of It
Something I realized about the six characters instead of four thing. I think the reason that is there is because you already fight five other characters during Multi-Man Melees and events like that. The difference through the debug menu is that you can have characters other than the fighting wireframe team, as well as have six characters in places other than Battlefield. I don’t think that the creators intended to have more than 4 in normal modes (since there are only four controllers), but I can’t be certain.
I really want to know what’s the difference between the version 1.0 ,1.1 and1.2. who can tell me that please?
I think they’re mostly bug fixes.
Ditto was pulled because it froze the game. In Debug Mode it just deals a buttload of damage to your enemy.
I believe that the way it was supposed to be programmed froze the game, so its appearence is just the dummied out variation without the bug.
Yep evidence is still in the rom, but the only way you’ll see is that to try out my favorite passtime (hacking obviously) ;). Try it, it’s very addicting; One note. V0.9 & 1.0!!!
The differences are that they had time to take things out. You see, the difference is that the first version released to the public is “1.0”.
If they find bugs, or thing that show up that arn’t sopposed to; they fix it stop shipping the first release. They instead start shipping this new and improved version.
This new version is refered as “1.1”. The cycle continues with 1.2 and so on.
Did that help samit?
For some reason Lucas was supposed to be in Melee replacing Ness but since Mother 3 was delayed they had to replace Lucas with Ness.
wow melee has been out for 10 years amazing!
I wish Melee was released around 2003. Just saying, it give those guys two more years making it and we might actually have some of this stuff in it. Then again, they would of covered up a lot of holoes and glitches too.
as far as i know the two trophies of samus and mario were a prize for conventions (they put them in your memory card i guess) thats why they are translated
The music for Onett was supposed to be different.
interesting, thanks for the info Starman! :)